Unitary Project - issue tracking

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This page is to track the early issues with Unitary Project.
  • Later we may start using Bugzilla.

Contents

  1. Done.png UP-1 initial launch
  2. Done.png UP-2 Save Project grayed-out
  3. ToDo.png UP-3 Drag&Drop
  4. Done.png UP-4 more on Save Project
  5. Done.png UP-5 Amplify crashes
  6. Done.png UP-6 Save location and name
  7. Done.png UP-7 new project save name and location
  8. Done.png UP-8 last-used location not remembered
  9. Done.png UP-9 error opening empty project
  10. ToDo.png UP-10 timing tests
  11. Done.png UP-11 MIDI
  12. ToDo.png UP-12 recent files list
  13. Done.png UP-13 Move and Rename a closed project   (Done.png) UP-13a Move after Closing
  14. ToDo.png UP-14 Recovery
  15. Done.png UP-15 cannot update a project
  16. Done.png UP-16 Nyquist EGATs crash
  17. ToDo.png UP-17 Projects can be larger on UP-3.0.0
  18. ToDo.png UP-18 Closing Audacity is slower with UP-3.0.0
  19. Done.png UP-19 Easier opening and deleting
  20. ToDo.png UP-20 Aliased Projects - Bugs 2188 & 2187
  21. Done.png UP-21 Backup command
  22. ToDo.png UP-22 Import .aup projects
  23. Done.png UP-23 Macro commands: Save Copy and Save Project2
  24. Done.png UP-24 Timer Record
  25. ToDo.png UP-25 Test disk-space exhaustion
  26. ToDo.png UP-26 Stress Tests
  27. ToDo.png UP-27 Deleting, Moving renaming active project files
  28. ToDo.png UP-28 Use of OS to create a copy project
  29. ToDo.png UP-29 Save Project does not propagate project name to Audacity window
  30. ToDo.png UP-30 On Mac second use of Save Project as has bad name/location
  31. UP-31
  32. UP-32
  33. UP-33
  34. UP-34
  35. UP-35
  36. UP-36
  37. UP-37
  38. UP-38
  39. UP-39
  40. UP-40
  41. UP-41
  42. UP-42


UP-01 - initial launch Done.png

Done.png initial launch message

On initial launch I got a message asking if I wanted to associate .aup3 files with Audacity to click on for launch.

I never normally see such a message with any new versions. I don't get this on Mac Catalina. Leland says that this is expected behavior.


UP-02 - Save Project grayed-out Done.png

Done.png initial launch Save Project grayed-out on Win, Mac & Linux

This was a regression on 2.4.2 and earlier.


UP-03 - Drag&Drop ToDo.png

ToDo.png Drag&Drop

I can't drag&drop a .aup3 file onto an open Audacity project window. From discussions with Leland I was expecting to be able to.

3-0-0 can't open aup3 file.png

ToDo.png On Windows I can drag&drop an .aup3 file onto the Audacity app icon on my desktop and it launches - but I still can't drag&drop it onto an open Audacity project

  • Done.png Drag&Drop of an .aup3 file onto an audacity.exe in Windows Explorer or a desktop shortcut icon for it
  • ToDo.png Drag&Drop of an .aup3 file onto an open Audacity Window fails

ToDo.png On Mac I can't drag&drop onto either the Audacity icon in the apps bar or an open Audacity project

  • ToDo.png Drag&Drop of an .aup3 file onto an Audacity app in Finder or the Audacity icon in the apps bar
  • ToDo.png Drag&Drop of an .aup3 file onto an open Audacity Window fails

ToDo.png On Linux, drag & drop projects are not recognized.



UP-04 - more on Save Project Done.png

Done.png Once the initial Save As has been made - the for subsequent saves the Save Project is no longer grayed out and I can use it to save.


UP-05 - Amplify crashes Done.png

Done.png Amplify works on Mac

Done.png Amplify works on Linux

Done.png Amplify works on W10 - and still does with Audacity 3.0.0 e7fd679



UP-06 - Save location and name Done.png

I imported a file with drag&drop from my desktop, when I went to Save the Project I was offered

a) a very unsuitable location "Session Data" folder - should be last used save location or default location if first ever save

b) a rather oddly constructed name ...

Done.png Windows - Location offered is Documents\Audacity and the offered name is left blank

Done.png Mac - Location offered is Documents - offered name is left blank.

BUT on Mac it's always Documents after relaunching Audacity. While Audacity remains open the last-used location is remembered, bur is lost when Audacity is closed. See UP-08 below.

Done.png Linux - Location offered is Documents - offered name is left blank.


UP-07 - new project save name and location Done.png

Done.png Saving a new project - odd name (based on temp file) and location (Session Data) offered

Done.png Windows

Done.png Mac

Done.png Linux


UP-08 - last-used location not remembered Done.png?

If I Save a project to a folder location while I have Audacity open and do Save As - I get offered that location

But if I close and reopen Audacity the the offered location is "Session Data" again and not the last-used location from previous use of Audacity.

Done.png Windows: it's always Documents after relaunching Audacity. While Audacity remains open the last-used location is remembered, but is lost when Audacity is closed.

Done.png Mac it's always Documents after relaunching Audacity. While Audacity remains open the last-used location is remembered, but is lost when Audacity is closed.

Done.png Linux - it's always Documents after relaunching Audacity. While Audacity remains open the last-used location is remembered, but is lost when Audacity is closed.


UP-09 - error opening empty project Done.png

Mac

Done.png On Mac now works with Audacity 3.0.0 51b3b0f

Linux

Done.png Linux can open an empty project.

Windows

Done.png works properly on W10 with Audacity 3.0.0 e7fd679


UP-10 - timing tests ToDo.png

ToDo.png further X-platform testing later

Done.png Some preliminary timing tests on W10 with Phas-1 build

UP-3.0.0 is a little slower than 2.4.2 right now 0 except for MP3 export which seems bang on the money.

Amplify takes more than double the time though.

Test file is a 3-hour stereo audio file

UP-3.0.0

  1. Import 3-hour WAV 1:31
  2. Amplify 3-hour audio 2:07
  3. Export 3-hour WAV 2:16
  4. Export as 3-hour MP3 4:36
  5. Import 3-hour MP3 2:07

2.4.2

  1. Import 3-hour WAV 0:50
  2. Amplify 3-hour audio 0.50
  3. Export 3-hour WAV 1:30
  4. Export as 3-hour MP3 4:35
  5. Import 3-hour MP3 1:12



UP-11 - MIDI Done.png

Done.png MIDI

On both W10 and macOS Catalina I can

  • import MIDI files
  • play MIDI tracks


UP-12 - recent files list ToDo.png

ToDo.png recent files list

On Mac the Recent Files list is a bit iffy (Steve said the same about Linux)

Also seems iffy on Windows

Leland 07Jul20 Temporary filenames are showing up in the file history. Haven't looked into why as yet.

UP-13 - Move and Rename a closed projectDone.png

Done.png Move and Rename

On W10 and mcOS Catalina I can:

  • rename a .aup3 file
  • move a .aup3 file to a different folder

and in both cases Audacity successfully opens it.

This is GREAT - as this is a tangle with old projects where losers could trip up and lose/damage their projects.


UP-13a - Move after Closing Done.png

It's unclear if this is a bug or desired behaviour. It will go away if we clear the clipboard on closing a project. Paul is very very keen on keeping the clipboard around after closing the Audacity project.

Paul 07Jul20 I'm no longer very keen: I wanted to keep old behavior if it was not difficult to do safely, but now I have been persuaded that there are enough hidden difficulties.

And Paul has now fixed this. RM is fine with the tiny 'regression', that you can close a project and lose a clipboard that previously would have hung around until you close Audacity (and that caused all sorts of problems).


UP-14 - Recovery ToDo.png

ToDo.png Recovery

Testing with a simulated crash.

Windows

ToDo.png Recovery fails - I get a new empty unnamed project opened with no offer of recovery

But I can successfully reopen the project and it tells me its recovered to the last snapshot.

Is this the "new form or recovery" ?

  • Peter 06Jul20: I'm thinking yes it is
    • Most users will realize that Audacity has crashed and can then just go and re-open their project (just as they would with Excel and Word). And for any user that just abandons a crashed project and comes back to it many months later and it will still tell 'em it's recovered to the last snapshot.
W10 recovered file.png

Mac

ToDo.png Recovery fails - I get a new empty unnamed project opened with no offer of recovery

If I try to re-open the project I get:
>Error Opening Project
>Unable to parse project information.

Linux

ToDo.png Recovery fails: 

 > Unable to parse project information.



UP-15 - cannot update a project Done.png

Windows

Done.png works properly with Audacity 3.0.0 e7fd679

Mac

Done.png works properly with Audacity 3.0.0 e08fb5e

Linux

Done.png works properly with Audacity 3.0.0 e08fb5e



UP-16 - Nyquist EGATs crash Done.png

Done.png With Phase-2 Audacity 3.0.0 e7fd679 these all now work. I'm guessing that the fix for Amplify crashing also cured all these.

Phase-1 On Windows and Mac most shipped Nyquist effects, generators, analyzers and tools crash Audacity.

The only three that work are

  • Tremolo
  • Vocoder
  • Rhythm track

Done.png All above the line effects, generators and analyzers work


Done.png Linux - All effects and generators tried so far (including the above three) work correctly.


UP-17 - Projects can be larger on UP-3.0.0 ToDo.png

ToDo.png Projects in UP-3.0.0 can be much larger than the equivalent project in 2.4.3

Projects are slightly larger as they develop on 3.0.0 than 2.4.2 - but on exiting Audacity 2.4.2 releases space whereas 3.0.0 does not. "Vacuuming" is what is needed, but when and with what trigger(s)

Leland 06Jul20: The project file should now be about normal after the project is closed. I'll probably want to add a progress dialog.

  • Peter 06Jul20: Testing on W10 with Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 confirms that Audacity now releases the not-needed bloat-space on Exit. But this has reverted to being slow again see UP-18

Peter 04Jul20: Saving a project withe 3.0.0 temporarily requires double the disk space as a temporary .bak of the project is created during the save only released when the Save completes. For large projects this could be a problem.

  • Leland 06Jul20: Unfortunately, I don't see a way around this. There will always be at least two copies during the save. This is the same for 2.4.2 as well, it's just not as easy to see.

Windows

Done.png testing on Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 - the bloat-space is released on exit from Audacity (it is slow though seeUP-18)

Mac

Done.png testing on Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 - the bloat-space is released on exit from Audacity (it is much quicker than Windows)

Linux

ToDo.png with Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 - the bloat-space is released on exit from Audacity

Re-test later

ToDo.png we will need to retest later as the UP development project progresses


UP-18 - Closing Audacity is slower with UP-3.0.0 ToDo.png

ToDo.png Closing Audacity is slower with UP-3.0.0

ToDo.png progress bar when closing is slow


ToDo.png further X-platform testing later

A lot of journaling appears to be taking place as the project closes. And this is without "vacuuming" to release unused space see UP17.

This is very noticeable on larger projects (a one-hour mono chirp with a few effects is sufficient).

Peter 03Jul20: Leland made a fix and with Audacity 3.0.0 48287e9 closing Audacity is much quicker, almost instaneous for an already saved project.


Windows

ToDo.png Testing on W10 with Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 - this has reverted to being slow again.

Tests similarly on Mac with Audacity 3.0.0 6c2cd20 with the space being properly on Exit(I can't make the second Save as that is the bug that removes the .aup3 file)

Mac

Done.png But Exit or Quit on Mac is much faster than on W10 taking a mere 3-4 seconds cf. 20-plus seconds on W10 with the same project steps.

  • Is this acceptably fast for a one-hour mono project ?

Linux

ToDo.png Better than before. It's still slower than 2.4.2, which was virtually instant, but nowhere near as slow as it was initially.

I've not tested this extensively, but closing a saved project seems to take a lot longer than closing an unsaved project.


UP-19 - Easier opening and deleting Done.png

Done.png It's much easier to find projects for opening and for deleting them

I'm finding that just after a couple of days testing the UP is much easier to manage:

  • Open: only one thing to look for, you don't get confused trying to "Open" the data folder
  • Delete: also only one thing to look for - and on W10 at least the folders and files are always separated so tour aup could be a long way away from its data folder (which could lead to fumble-fingers trouble)


UP-20 - Aliased Projects ToDo.png

It is possible that some users may still have projects that are relying on aliased files - and note that ODL has been removed from 3.0.0

  • ToDo.png P1 Bug #2188 ENH: No warning is given on project opening that the project is not self-contained and relies on aliased file(s
  • ToDo.png P1 Bug #2187 - Silent crash (with no error message) when using a missing aliased audio file

James wrote by email: The current bug about it still applies. There are good chances we will fix the problem for 3.0.0.

  1. would involve a silent copy-in. We would not need to alert the user.
  2. would tell the user about the error.

They would not need to go back to 2.4.2 to correct the problem. There is though the possibility that the bug stays open (unless QA raise it to P1).

Peter replied: I am thus unsure what to do about these two bugs.

As we are going to have a major d/b transition it would be good if we could fix these for 3.0.0

But I'm suspecting that by now there may be very few aliased project - so maybe it's not worth a lot of effort. I'm very undecided right now - but I'm going to log them in this UP-issues page just to keep some focus on them.


UP-21 - Backup command Done.png

Done.png new Backup Project command

In 3.0.0 Save Compressed Copy of Project and Save Compressed Copy of Project

QA discussed the Backup Project issue and rapidly reached agreement.

1) QA likes the short form of the command File > Save Project > Backup Project

2) And QA agrees that there should be no overwrite of backup projects (or any other projects with the Backup command).

Accordingly the current error message used for the deprecated Save Lossless... and Save Compressed... can be used as-is:


UP-22 Import .aup projects ToDo.png

ToDo.png We need an import utility for .aup projects from Audacity 2.4.2 and earlier.

See UP-20 Aliased Projects


UP-23 - Macro commands Done.png

  • Done.png the new backup Macro command "Save Copy" offers a file with extension .aup and not .aup3
  • Done.png the existing Macro command "Save Project2" offers a file with extension .aup and not .aup3

The new backup Macro command "Save Copy" appears to effectively be a duplicate of "Save Project2"

  • Leland 07Jul20: it’s really not a duplicate (I had the feeling at first too). The difference is that once “Save Project2” writes out the new file, that file becomes the active one. With “Save Backup” the original file remains the active one.


UP-24 - Timer Record Done.png

Done.png Timer Record works fine.

Tested with Automatic save and Automatic Export


UP-25 - Test disk-space exhaustion ToDo.png

ToDo.png check that disk-space exhaustion error traps still work properly.

Paul indicates that this may have changed with SQLite 3.0.0 - so needs re-checking.

  • ToDo.png Recording
  • ToDo.png Save Project
  • ToDo.png File Export


Leland 07Jul20: On Windows we get an exception loop. On Linux we get an unhandled exception. On OSX it's a bit weird. We don't get a crash, but some of the menus no longer work...like I can't Quit even though the menu item appears to be available.

UP-26 Stress Tests ToDo.png

  • ToDo.png Very long projects
  • ToDo.png Multi-track projects with lots of tracks
  • Done.png Simultaneous playback and recording
    • James requested: Can you do some testing of play-through record please Peter? The point there is that we are both reading and writing the database, so there might possibly (low probability) be new issues around lock files. It's unlikely, but let's find out. So for worst results, play back a mix of 4 stereo channels, and record stereo and at the highest sampling rate your card offers at the same time. If we're unlucky this might get SQLite in a twist. It might try to do things in big batches and lock us out for too long.
    • This worked fine on W10 with my Edirol UA-1EX


UP-27 Deleting, Moving renaming active project files ToDo.png

Windows

Done.png Audacity prevents Deleting, Moving or renaming active project files: .aup -wal and -shm while a project remains open

Mac

ToDo.png to be tested

Linux

ToDo.png You can delete the -wal and -shm on Linux.

ToDo.png .uap3 behavior unknown



UP-28 Use of OS to create a copy project ToDo.png

Done.png Windows: use Windows Explorer to copy a project. Open it with Audacity

Done.png Mac: use Windows Explorer to copy a project. Open it with Audacity

ToDo.png Linux: behavior unknown


UP-29 Save Project does not propagate project name to Audacity window ToDo.png

ToDo.png Save Project does not propagate project name to Audacity window This is a regression on 2.4.2

ToDo.png Windows: Testing on W10 with Audacity 3.0.0 b12fafb

  1. If I use Save Project
    • the project is saved with the correct name
    • but the project name does nor propagate to the tip banner of the Audacity window, ir remains as "Audacity"
  2. If I use Save Project As - then the project name does propagate to renaming the banner.

ToDo.png Mac: Testing on macOS with Audacity 3.0.0 b12fafb

  1. If I use Save Project
    • the project is saved with the correct name
    • but the project name does nor propagate to the tip banner of the Audacity window, ir remains as "Audacity"
  2. If I use Save Project As - then the project name does NOT propagate to renaming the banner.

ToDo.png Linux: behavior unknown


UP-30 On Mac second use of Save Project as has bad name/location ToDo.png

ToDo.png On Mac second use of Save Project as has bad name/location

On Mac when I first use Save Project As I get a blank filename offered and Documents as the location (which is good)

When I next use Save Project As a) The location offered is Session Data (this is bad) b) The project name field has: New Project 2020-07-10 11-53-11N-2.aupunsaved.aup3 - which looks like a temp filename c) Pressing Save button saves it with that rubbishy file name

Windows is not similarly affected

ToDo.png Linux behavior is unknown.


UP-31 X-platform compatibility of AUP3 project files ToDo.png

Paul raised this issue by email.

James replied:

  • We do not expect it to be cross platform at the moment. Our integers are the wrong way round.
  • As RM I expect us to be revisiting the binary format and using a fixed endianness.
  • It will not hurt performance.
  • I also expect to use a more compact autosave format than now, but not zipped, better for recording, and to be doing that during 3.0.0.

Windows

  • ToDo.png Windows => Mac
  • ToDo.png Windows => Linux

Mac

  • ToDo.png Mac => Windows
  • ToDo.png Mac => Linux

Linux

  • ToDo.png Linux => Windows
  • ToDo.png Linux => Mac


UP-32

UP-33

UP-34

UP-30

UP-35

UP-36

UP-37

UP-38

UP-39

UP-40

UP-41

UP420

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