Talk:VST Plug-ins

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Peter 10Nov11: Comments from Gale copied at his request from the Forum:
  • Gale:
    • I'm sure the long list of (mainly Windows) "functional" effects has broken links, effects that are no longer available and so on. Some user on Windows added most of the effects to that list at some point in history.
    • The "List of Plug-ins with known problems" is likely out of date too, and certainly does not need references to behaviour with the old VST-bridge. There may be a case for maintaining that list, rather than pointing users to Bugzilla reports, especially if there were issues that we could not fix.
  • Peter 10Nov15: Boy this page does need some loving.
    1. I killed all the dead links in the main list and in the problems list as a starter.
    2. I really think we should not be listing any for which we cannot provide a suitable link. Apart from any other consideration this would shorten the page nicely
    3. I suspect even those listed with links could be pruned a little (but my knowledge/experience is limited here).
    4. Rather I would suggest linking to Virtual Studio Technology in Wikipedia. That page has links to suppliers of VST effects and on those pages are downloads for various VSTs
    5. And if a user requires even more VST plug-ins/plugins they can always try Googling
    6. Any listed one should really carry a brief description of what the plug-in does
    7. Traditionally we would bullet-point the list - Connie doesn't like the "br" construct - but I'm not going to tackle this till we address 2 above.
  • Peter 15Nov15: Well I've given it a first bit of loving today:
    • Split the list into two, those plug-ins with links and those without
    • Reformatted the list of those with links to be an ordered list and reming the "br" linebrak construct tha Connie does not like.
    • Set a P2 recommending that we just lose the list of those plug-ins without a link (users could use Google and/or Wikipedia.
  • Gale 16Nov15: Thanks, Peter. I think the best thing to do is make this a wiki sortable table, with columns for the following:
    • Plug-in name
    • Publisher
    • OS/architecture
    • Last revised (or Version tested)
    • Maximum Audacity version (this would usually be blank but e.g. the PPC Mac plugins are maximum Audacity 2.1.1)
    • Comments.
See an example of a sortable table at FFmpeg_integration#Exporting using latest FFmpeg. I would be prepared to make the table if necessary. I guess most of the plugins listed here are free and we would rarely list commercial VST's unless there was no comparable free alternative. So commercial plugins would probably best be in their own section.
Also, we should have a note div here about free VST realtime hosts which could be used to apply effects during recording, with Audacity recording the host's output. I know you may not want to do that but someone else can.
  • Peter 16Nov15: While this is an admirable suggestion Gale, I'm sorry but I don't really think I have the time needed to devote to this. There are c. 110 in this list and each one would need to be reasearched to populate the table you postulate - and I don't have any background at all in using VST effects. It's also something that we can't really do piecemeal, it really is something that has to be done all in one go.
  • Gale 16Nov15: This list is very hard to read. Grouping into a number of lists for each type of effect could work, but that would need more research. I only propose (for now) to put the information in the table that we already have. But the table would then be much easier to read and more information could easily be added by anyone. You can get list to table tools so the conversion should not be a long job, so I remain willing to do it sometime. After going as far as you are willing.
    • Peter 17Nov15: I agree that the current list is barely navigable, in contrast the Nyquist page has its effects grouped. So I do agree that a table is a good idea - in such a table I would like a field where we can put a brief description of what the plug-in does including a link to the related page from the plug-in supplier. It may be useful to have a filed for the last release dta/update so the user can judge the currency. Most of these fields would be empty to start off with and would only be filled over time with some diligent reseach (probably accompanied by testing - if we want to be sure about quality). I won't have much more time to spend on this until the new year as I'm off diving for a couple of weeks soon and then it will be Chritmas/New Year and I have several other things (including RC testing) to deal with between now and then. But yes I can copy those lists over to your draft table page shortly as I'm not planning to work on this page much more right now.

      If you can put a draft of the table with a single entry in the next week or so then I should be able to review it before I go away on the 28th.

    • Gale 18Nov15: I added a "Last revised" column to the list of possible table columns, but if that gets outdated it becomes misleading. Perhaps "Version tested" would be better. I was intending the "Comments" column (or some such name) to include any info we have about what the plugin does. If the plugin is no longer developed we could say so in the comments.
Peter 16Nov15: I spent some time this morning working on grouping of the digitalfishphones plug-ins. I chose that set as this author's plug-in regulary occur on the forum posings (my memory tells me). Looking at the fish-fillets suite (Spitfish, Blockfish & Floorfish), I supsect these are typical of many of the plug-ins we list. The author writes "IMPORTANT! The mac version will most certainly not work on current Macs! They weren't compiled for Intel-based Macs at all (due to the age of the code base...). So the software might only be of use for older machines... Windows users: 32bits only here. Don't ask for x64. No way." and I note that last time he updated these at all was in 2005. So what we have is stuff that was good in its time no doubt, but that has been left to wither on the vine, left behind by more modern platform technology. And I suspect that many of the ones in our list on this page are in a similar condition. This worries me ...
  • Gale 16Nov15: PPC-only plugins are no longer supported in Audacity 2.1.2 onwards because 2.1.2 onwards does not support PPC Mac. But there are few Mac plugins here. Audacity can only see 32-bit VST's on Windows.

    Add note of 64/32-bit bridge plugins that let Audacity use 64-bit VST's on Windows.



Steve 23Dec11: A few notes about VST support in Linux:

FST

FST is a program by which uses Wine, Jack and Steinberg's VST Audio Plug-Ins SDK to enable the use of many VST audio plug-ins under Gnu/Linux. http://www.joebutton.co.uk/fst/

FeSTige

a GUI for fst and dssi-vst, allowing you to run Windows VST plug-ins on Linux. Home page for FeSTige: http://festige.sourceforge.net/

Discussion about FeSTige on Linuxmusicians.com http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2411

PPA for FeSTige: https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/festige/

An article describing FeSTige here: http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/festige-free-vst-host-for-linux-reaches-v1.0


Windows in VirtualBox

Probably the easiest way to get support for VST on Linux.


Running a host in Wine

Wineasio

List of Plug-ins for which we have no download links

Peter 15Nov15: P2 My vote would be for removing this list entirely. If users want more VST plug-ins than we list above in the list of thos ewith links then they can always Use Google or Wikipedia.
  • Gale: I expect many of these links can be added. For example see http://www.voxengo.com/group/free-vst-plugins/.
    • Peter 16Nov15: I'm sorry but there are 245 of these listed without links and I really have neither the time nor the inclination to research all of these - some of which may well be hosted on dubious sites of the type I don't care to explore. My suggestion is that we hive this off to a separate page linked to from here as this would have the benefit of shotening this very long page. This does not prevent motivataed folk in the future moving items on that page for which they find links to this page.
    • Gale 17Nov15: I agree there are a lot there. But I see no value in hiving them off. They were put here because they were known (at the time) to work. So they can legitimately go in the proposed table, but with no link.
      • Peter 17Nov15: Were they really "known to work", were they tested? That would have been - and remains - a labour of love. They look more as though they were just dumped here, certainly whoever placed them there didn't even take the trouble to add links for them - let alone a bit of descriptive text. I worry, as our listing seems to imply a sort of Audacity endorsement.
      • Gale 18Nov15: Not "just dumped". I strongly believe tested (in 1.2) but adding links would have been extra work.

2WarpDelay_v1.dll
4poleLPF.dll
Neosweep.dll
Acidfanatic overdrive.dll
Acidfanatic stereo2mono.dll
Acidfanatic ultradrive.dll
AnalogDelay.dll
AnechoicRoomSimulator.dll
ariesverb_0_2.dll
B_Decoder.dll
bandspin.dll
BassChorusV23.dll
BassPhaserV10.dll
Big Tick Dual Delay.dll
Big Tick Hexaline.dll
BPan_e.dll
BPan_e_gui.dll
BPan_m.dll
BPan_m_gui.dll
c3multibandcomp_1_2.dll
c3multibandcomp_1_2sse.dll
CamelPhatFree.dll
CatDelay.dll
CatDelay_1_3.dll
CCTDelayLE.dll
Chimecho.dll
CompactDistortion.dll
Compressor2.dll
Compressor.dll
CoyoteWah.dll
CrazyIvan.dll
D_Limiter.dll
dB Compressor.dll
dbFree.dll
DCOffsetKiller.dll
Delayer.dll
Delta Filter.dll
Delta Force.dll
Delta Phase.dll
Delta Ping.dll
Delta Space.dll
dfx Buffer Override mono.dll
dfx Buffer Override stereo.dll
dfx Monomaker.dll
dfx Scrubby.dll
dfx Skidder.dll
DFX Transverb.dll
Distortionator Mk2.dll
Dr_ExpanderDemo.dll
echographz.dll
effex.dll
E-Phonic LOFI.dll
E-Phonic XPressor.dll
F_M_Comp.dll
F_M_EQShelf.dll
F_M_Tube.dll
F_S_Comp.dll
F_S_EQFilter.dll
F_S_EQShelf.dll
F_S_LineT.dll
F_S_Phase.dll
F_S_Tube.dll
FEILEI Surround Echo.dll
FEILEI Surround Encode.dll
FEILEI Surround Pan.dll
Filterizer.dll
FilterONE.dll
firegain.dll
Flaser.dll
Flipper.dll
FloFi.dll
florus.dll
FlybabyBETA.dll
Fruity 7band EQ.dll
Fruity balance.dll
Fruity bass boost.dll
Fruity blood overdrive.dll
Fruity filter.dll
Fruity delay.dll
Frohmage_vst2win.dll
Fuzz-Stone.dll
Gain.dll
GClip.dll
GComp.dll
GeneComp3.dll
GeneComp3_mono.dll
GeneComp.dll
GeneComp_mono.dll
GGate.dll
GHi.dll
Glacier.dll
dBlue Glitch - requires Audacity 1.3.9 or later; random probability feature does not work in Audacity 2.0.2
GLow.dll
GranComp3.dll
GranComp3_mono.dll
GranComp.dll
GranComp_mono.dll
GRevDly.dll
GVerb.dll
Hard Limiter.dll
IndyGoDelay.dll
IndyGoGater.dll
IndyGoTremolo.dll
Invada EQ-Tube-Mono.dll
Invada EQ-Tube-Stereo.dll
Invada Tube-Mono.dll
Invada Tube-Stereo.dll
karlette.dll
KarmaFX Deelay.dll
KarmaFX Filter.dll
KewlCompressor.dll
KONTRAST.DLL
KristalEQ.dll
Kristalizer.dll
KristalReverb.dll
KTAudioHealer.dll
KwikKomp2b1.dll
KwikKomp3VST.dll
Levels.dll
LoFiPlus.dll
LPGEQ2.dll
LPGEQ2_1.dll
LPGEQ.dll
LPGEQ_mono.dll
Mab.dll
MadShifta.dll
mdspFlanger.dll
Megatrancer.dll
MjRotoDelay.dll
MnComp_v1r.dll
MonstaChorus.dll
Morphing Delay 2.1 Demo.dll
msBalance.dll
msComp.dll
msDecode.dll
msDelay.dll
msEncode.dll
msSwap.dll
msvcr71.dll
ndcPanner.dll
ndcTrem.dll
ndcTrem_plus.dll
noisegate.dll
Null-BandSpin.dll
P1-Tapedelay.dll
PalancarWare Brick.dll
PalancarWare DeDC.dll
PalancarWare Empire.dll
PalancarWare Ozone.dll
PalancarWare Refero.dll
PalancarWare Scalar.dll
ppdisto.dll
preamp.dll
pvaccu.dll
pvexag.dll
pvtransp.dll
pwmdrive.dll
pzx.dll
q_delOizer30.dll
Qamp.dll
respass.dll
RetroDelay.dll
Reverb.dll
Reversinator.dll RMD.dll
Saturator.dll - analog tape saturation emulator for added "warmth"
sc4.dll
sc 04 sec Stereo Delay.dll
sc Multi Delay.dll
sc Multi Tap Delay.dll
sc Stereo Panner.dll
sc Tremelo.dll
SDynamics.dll
SFilter.dll
SH-1 Chorus.dll
SH-1 Filter.dll
SH-1 Graphic EQ.dll
SH-1 LFO Multi.dll
SH-1 PhaseSifter.dll
SH-1 Reverb.dll
ShivaShifta.dll
SideChCompMn.dll
SideChCompSt.dll
SideKick2.dll
Silverspike Reverb-it Demo.dll
SimpleQ.dll
SimpleTremolo.dll
SLFO.dll
Solidverb.dll
SonicChorus.dll
SpectriX.dll
SPICE1_01.dll
Square-o-matic.dll
Stardust.dll
Starplugs-RuntimePanner.dll
StComp_v1r.dll
stepper.dll
Stereoizer.dll
StereoFaker.dll
StereoStretcher.dll
StereoTools.dll
StudioVerb.dll
SupaPhaser.dll
surrounder.dll
TapeDelay.dll
Telephone.dll - simple, very realistic telephone audio simulator.
TK-3BandDisto.dll
TK-4Filters.dll
TK-BPMDelay.dll
TK-BPMDelayS.dll
TK-FeedFlanger.dll
TK-FilterDisto.dll
TK-FlangDestructor.dll
TK-LPFilterMod.dll
TK-StereoFlanger.dll
TranceFormer.dll
tridirt.dll
T-SLEDGE.dll
TubeBaby.dll
unmatched.dll
VariDelay.dll
VFlange.dll
VFlanger.dll
VIBRATOR1_00.dll
Vibro.dll
Volcano.dll
VPingPong.dll
WARP.DLL
Whix.dll
Z-BandSpin.dll
Z-FilterDub.dll
Z-Florus.dll
Z-Ringer.dll
Z-SpShift.dll
Z-SpVoc.dll